Brand Creative in the Age of AI Conversation with Peregian Digital Hub
April 22, 2025
Media
What happens when two laid-off ex-agency folks tinker with AI during a global pandemic? You get Springboards—an idea accelerator now used by 120+ agencies to fight creative sameness and win more pitches. In this convo with Peregian Digital Hub Director Chris Boden, Pip and Amy share how they built a startup from scratch, why AI should fuel creativity—not replace it—and how they’re helping agencies fall in love with bold ideas again.
Springboards co-founders Pip and Amy had a chance to sit down with Peregian Digital Hub Director, Chris Boden, to talk about how they went from freshly laid-off tech workers with a toddler to founders of an AI startup, changing the game for advertising agencies. Peregian Digital Hub is a self-proclaimed “gathering place for AI nerds” in Noosa, Australia, where the co-founders reside, and was a huge influence on kickstarting Springboards.
The conversation ranged from playing and tinkering with AI tools during covid times to building an MVP and learning what VC was, to today with over 100 agencies onboarded and using Springboards to supercharge their creative process. Read on for highlights from the conversation between Chris, Pip, and Amy.
What Business Need Does Springboards Solve?
If you haven’t heard, the ad industry’s got a problem. Margins are shrinking, and a big part of it is what we lovingly call the "pitching problem." Agencies are hustling harder than ever, sinking time and money into speculative work—creating entire campaigns for free just to win a client. It’s exhausting, expensive, and honestly, kinda soul-crushing.
That was the impetus for Springboards, the platform that puts creativity back in the driver’s seat without losing the human spark. Built by ad-world veterans, Springboards is an idea accelerator designed to speed up the creative process without watering down the magic. Think of it as your new brainstorming buddy, helping with everything from strategy to killer concepts.
Here’s what makes us tick:
We Want to Fit Into Agency Workflows: Clients don’t just hire you for the work; they want ideas, innovation, and yep, even "someone to blame” if something goes wrong (no judgment!) Springboards isn’t supposed to replace your process—it powers it, giving you more firepower to deliver fresh, unexpected ideas.
Not Designed to Give You Answers but an Inspiration Overload: Springboards isn’t about spitting out the answer. It’s about throwing a hundred weird, wild, and wonderful ideas your way so you can pick the best and make them better. It’s like a workshop in your pocket, minus the bad coffee and awkward icebreakers.
Humans Always Come First: This isn’t some “robots-take-your-job” story. Pip and Amy built Springboards to keep people in the creative equation. The platform is there to amplify your genius, not replace it. We like to think of it as the Terminator story - we’re using humans partnered up with AI to fight the evil AI.
Say Goodbye to Meh Ideas: AI often has this nasty habit of playing it safe and turning out stuff that’s painfully average. We hate that. So we’re constantly tweaking Springboards to make sure it doesn’t fall into that trap. The goal? Help you hit the jackpot without settling for "fine."
Springboards isn’t just helping agencies work smarter—it’s flipping the script for teams and entire agencies:
One user told us, “With Springboards, I feel like I can take on any agency out there.” That’s the energy we live for.
Pitches are turning into wins: Agencies using Springboards have more wins under their belts. One client even joked, “The only problem is, I don’t have enough briefs to answer anymore.”
What’s Next?
We’re not stopping here. With plans to continue growing globally and a laser focus on fighting creative entropy (aka the soul-sucking sameness that kills good ideas), Springboards is on a mission to keep creativity alive and well.
Our promise? To keep pushing boundaries and helping the world’s creatives do what they do best: make weird, wild, wonderful things happen. Check out the full interview here for more insights.
Ready to rethink how you work? Join the Springboards revolution, and let’s keep creativity where it belongs—in human hands. Request a demo today at https://springboards.ai/#demo.
James Hurman, Founding Partner, Previously Unavailable
How do you define creativity?
Original, engaging ideas, beautifully crafted.
Is AI a friend or a foe?
A friend in the right hands (good strategy people using it as a springboard, good creative people with great taste using it as a production tool) and a foe in the wrong hands (poor strategy or creative people, or anyone in marketing, using it to conceive and produce average work).
Name a piece of work that AI could never have come up with?
Basically any big Lion-winner. But I'm going to pick on Heinz' 'Ketchup Fraud' as I don't think an LLM would ever be in a position to notice a restaurateur pouring cheap ketchup into a Heinz bottle.
What’s the weirdest place you’ve ever found a great idea?
Around the back of a service station in Pakuranga. It was under a random big sheet of cardboard that someone had spilled quite a lot of JD's and coke on. It was quite cold and the idea looked sad and quite sketchy but I could tell it was a great one. I was nervous about just taking it because there was a security camera there, but I had a hoodie on so I pulled up my hood and put my sunglasses on and turned away from the camera and grabbed it. Then a woman came busting out the back door of the service station and saw me and shouted something about me smelling like JDs, not realising that it was the cardboard and not me. I was going through a period of using quite a lot of Lynx Africa so I was pretty confident I didn't smell of JDs and instead I would most likely have been giving off an aromatic, woody, powdery oriental accord opening with notes of lime, mandarin, lavender, apple and galbanum which lead to a heart of geranium, rose, Jasmin and lily on a base of cedarwood, sandalwood, amber, musks, patchouli, Tonka, vanilla and moss. Anyway, the woman was pretty grunty and came at me hard. I was shitting myself so I dropped the idea and ran really fast down the road and then hid behind one of those old telephone exchange boxes for a while until it was safe to come out. Then I walked home and watched an old episode of M*A*S*H to calm down.
Favourite AI hack or use case? What do you think it is good for?
Talking to ChatGPT in audio mode to understand things that I'm thinking about or working on. It's great for constant fact checking or deepening my understanding really quickly without needing to switch tabs or context switch.
When solving problems, its common for people and businesses to ask the same questions and use similar processes...which leads them to similar answers. In marketing its a key reason why so much of the communications in each category look and sound the same. Creativity is about asking different questions and using a different process to open up new options--not just ones that are different from what your competitors are saying, but ones that your competitors could not say. In marketing, creativity is taking your strategy, your messaging and your communications assets to a place where your competitors can't follow you.
Is AI a friend or a foe?
It can be either. Like any other technology tool, It depends 100% how you use it.
Name a piece of work that AI could never have come up with?
This was produced with AI, but developed and written by humans. AI is so much about pattern recognition and doing things that are similar to what you've done before. This is so different than what exists out there in the tax and accounting space that no AI could have come up with it.
What’s the weirdest place you’ve ever found a great idea?
All my great ideas happen when I'm not working. Lately some of my ideas have come from thinking about my grandmother. When she died and we cleaned out her house, we found all of these bundles of money hidden away in different places tied up with ribbons. I'm working on a financial services product. We think about money as a very rational thing but there is SO much emotion wrapped up in it. Like the little bundles my grandmother left us.
Favourite AI hack or use case? What do you think it is good for?
I'm not sure that I have a brilliant answer here--I use it as a partner in lots of thinking and work. It helps you get the obvious ideas out of the way quickly. I am able to be SO fast in doing background research, developing target insights, and understanding the competitive landscape that I can spend my HUMAN time working on the creative pieces that push the thinking to new and more interesting places.
My mother has been sick with a complex medical condition and I've been using it a ton to understand what to expect and figure out questions to ask the doctors. But I haven't been telling the doctors that I'm doing that because I think they'll be annoyed. I had someone tell me recently that they had AI write recommendations or questions in a format that looks like a referral letter from another doctor. They then hand that to their new doctor and it gets more attention. I thought that was super interesting...how AI is giving such good information but we need to "fake" the source so people will accept it.
If I had to choose one word to pinpoint what makes large language models (LLMs) amazing I would choose “flexibility.” Whether you’re after a solution to a logic problem, a recipe for brownies or a plot outline for a new space opera, the LLM will almost always be able to offer something.
Now, it should go without saying that not every response that comes from an LLM is good. LLMs are often said to “hallucinate” because they report falsehoods and inaccuracies with the same confidence as they report facts. But for many tasks for which we might consult an LLM, “correctness” is simply not a factor. What would it mean, for instance, to “hallucinate” a plot outline for a space opera? Sounds pretty good to me, that’s how Dune was written. Instead, what is much more significant for judging a space opera proposal, or really any creative task, is how novel it is.
How original, different, variable, random are LLM outputs really? I think the answer will surprise you.
Pick a Random Number Between 1 and 10
Open a fresh thread in an AI assistant of your choosing, ask it to “Pick a random number between 1 and 10” and come back with the answer.
You got 7.
Surprised?
In the same thread, ask the model to give you another number between 1 and 10.
You got 3.
Okay, I’m less sure it was 3; you might have gotten 4 or 5.
How could I possibly know that? Well, in an experiment we conducted earlier this year, we asked several popular AI models that same question 100 times over and tallied the results.
All the models we tested showed a massive bias towards number 7 as the first “random” number offered.
OpenAI’s GPT-4o answered “7” 92/100 times, Anthropic’s Claude 3.5 Sonnet answered “7” 90/100 times and Google’s Gemini 2.0 Flash answered “7” a perfect 100/100 times.
When asked for a second “random” number, models show slightly more variability, but across all models almost all of the answers were either 3, 4 or 5;
Say a completely random word
An LLM, as we have seen, won’t behave “randomly” just because you ask it to. This is true for all open ended questions, not just random number generation.
So what happens when we ask an LLM to "Say a completely random word." For this experiment we used the OpenAI API to run the prompt against GPT 4o 100 times each at 6 temperature levels and tallied the results;
The standout performer was “quokka” which GPT 4o offered up “randomly” 155 times; a full quarter of all replies to the prompt. Curiously “platypus”, another Australian animal also made it into the top positions appearing in fourth place with 27 occurrences. This wasn’t an “Australian” version of GPT 4o by the way, I suspect English speaking internet culture, which makes up a large portion of LLM training data, just considers Australian animals to be “more random” than animals of other continents. All in all the top 10 words replied by the model made up more than half of all words suggested.
One of the most surprising results that came out of our experiments was that prompting for more randomness can have the opposite effect. We ran the same experiment as above, but changed the prompt to read; "say a completely random word that I wouldn't be able to predict."
These results were even more repetitive than the previous experiment. Now “quokka” makes up more than half of the total words just by itself (returned 355 times). It should go without saying that this makes the response much more predictable.
Predictably boring?
So what is happening? You may notice that the “unpredictable” words offered by the model have a certain quality to them. “Snollygoster”, “spelunking” and “flibbertigibbet” have the kind of randomness evocative of a Lewis Carroll poem. “Zephyr”, “ephemeral” and “serendipity” have a literary quality and tend not to show up in common speech. As an Australian and ex-resident of Perth, “quokka” and “platypus” do not sound “random” to me, but that’s a rant for another day.
LLMs are, without getting into the technicalities, trained to say likely things. They are, in essence, a machine designed to predict the most likely next word based on all the previous words provided. This is what an LLM will do regardless of how many words like “random”, “unpredictable” or “chaotic” that you shove into the prompt. So much money, time and effort at the moment is pouring into solving AI’s reliability problem; say the right answer, write the right code, don’t mess up that recipe, don’t hallucinate. But the fundamental problem that LLMs pose for creative tasks is not reliability at all, it is repetition.
It is difficult to see just how repetitive AI assistants are from the vantage of a single user; 7 followed by 3 is a plausible combination of random numbers and “quokka” is a plausible word chosen and random. What you don’t see from the chat thread, is that hundreds of thousands of other people who ask the same question are getting much the same answer. What effect does this have on creativity? Perhaps you can see where I’m going with this.
What would happen if ChatGPT’s 400 million weekly users all asked for creative and original ideas? To find out, we ran the following prompts through GPT 4o 100 times via the OpenAI API and counted the most common responses.
“Give me a fun idea to get people dancing at a party. Describe the idea in one word.”
Model responded with “flashmob” 67 out of 100 times.
“Give me a creative idea for a performance artwork. Describe the idea in one word.”
Model responded with “metamorphosis” 80 out of 100 times.
“Give me an original theme for an ad campaign for Nike. Describe the theme in just one word.”
Model responded with either “unleash” or “unleashed” 73 out of 100 times.
None of these answers are wrong, or bad, (okay, maybe the flashmob). In general the quality of the creative suggestion we get out of LLM is perfectly fine. The problem is that LLMs seem to have an extremely limited range, even when asked open-ended questions. To a single user, this is almost invisible. Meanwhile the world is slowly turning beige.
This is what we mean when we say Springboards is optimising for variation. This is why we continue to optimise for variation. Because creativity needs diversity and novelty to thrive.
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